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NoChance · Feb 18, 2007, 07:17 PM // 19:17

All these people raging about the fact that the didn't get enough rewards for bringing in the ingredients! Must you receive a tangible reward for everything you do? what about personal satisfaction that you brought in all the ingredients that you did... or satisfaction that you contributed to the event?

people are too materialistic!

The Ernada · Feb 18, 2007, 07:22 PM // 19:22

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Originally Posted by NoChance

All these people raging about the fact that the didn't get enough rewards for bringing in the ingredients! Must you receive a tangible reward for everything you do? what about personal satisfaction that you brought in all the ingredients that you did... or satisfaction that you contributed to the event?

people are too materialistic!

Try farming for hours to get those materials and then being in the first two events that failed. All that work for nothing. See if you get any personal satisfaction from getting nothing and helping nothing.

Funnily enough, I finally got my pig after going to sleep and going AFK.

EDIT: Oh and I dont care that everyone gets the same reward. I'd just like a guarantee that I get something for effort I put in. I dont mind that AFK'ers get the same reward I do.

Blackest Rose · Feb 18, 2007, 07:22 PM // 19:22

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Originally Posted by NoChance

All these people raging about the fact that the didn't get enough rewards for bringing in the ingredients! Must you receive a tangible reward for everything you do? what about personal satisfaction that you brought in all the ingredients that you did... or satisfaction that you contributed to the event?

people are too materialistic!

So do you believe that if you go to school each day and do nothing in class that you should get rewarded the same as someone who studies hard and get's A's just because you're in the same class.....

Like it or not this game (like real life) has divides used to separate players and distingush feats from each other. Titles/mini-pets/dances etc.
Everyone wants to be special but special shouldn't come for free...

The problem is that afk'ers have the same rewards as people who spent 10 hrs yesterday playing and farming items.

If I was in films I'd be tempted to say "What's my motivation?" right about now.

KESKI · Feb 18, 2007, 07:27 PM // 19:27

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

Nope. They made the naive, weak-minded, and optimistic happy, whereas they made the thoughtful, intelligent, and pessimistic annoyed.

Evil always wins because good is dumb.

If they are intelligent, one bad business choice wont kill them. If they keep making the wrong choice....they are not intelligent

And I never heard of intelligent people must be a greedy pig

DRGN · Feb 18, 2007, 07:29 PM // 19:29

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Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa

A little self testing easily proves it, get a sin with 0 dagger mastery and 13 in critical strikes then go and attack something, you will see every hit made netting you your 3 energy.

I'm REALLY getting tired of seeing this bad information going around. A little self testing on something higher than level 2 will DISPROVE it. I tested this on the Isle of the Nameless with 200 Dagger attacks, nothing even close to 100%. Attacking level 2's and such will get criticals ANYWAY. Go attack stuff outside Shing Jea WITHOUT the Lucky Aura and see. Besides, do you really think ANet would give that much of a buff to weapon users and completely snub spellcasters?

Anyway, about the event.
Rollerbettle Racing- Good concept, fairly fun, but a LOT of luck involved, not just in getting skills. but in not going down that spiraling ramp at the end and rubber banding back to the top. >_>

Lucky Hochei- I liked this guy. More bang for your tokens, but takes a bit longer. You get a nice reward for your time though.

Lucky Aura- Please,ANet, tell us what something DOES the next time you give it to us, instead of making us spend the weekend trying to figure out what is does(in vain).

Lunar Fortunes- I loved these. Random item or gold, Lunar Blessing, or getting possessed. It was rather interesting to see my female Elementalist say "As a boy, I spent much time in these lands." Taking over female bodies? I think we all knew Rurik was pretty weird, but...

Fireworks- Meh. Little trinkets like with all the other events. Not great, but not bad, either.

The Finale- This was the only part of the event I really kinda hated. Spending a few hours grinding for the stuff for desert only to find out we only needed one person in the district to have each kinda got me annoyed. The gift bags were fun, and the mask isn't as bad as a lot of people think. I still prefer the Tengu mask and Pumpkin Head, but the Lion will be fun to throw out once in a while. The bad part was the end, where the pig runs around for about 5 minutes for no apparent reason, then vanishes. We all followed him, expecting something, then *poof*. No dramatic warp sequence, no explosions, no celestial bacon, nothing, just vanished.

Overall, while this definitely wasn't my favorite event, it wasn't a disaster by any means. I think part of the disappointment of people came from the fact that Anet's other events had been good, and that got expectations up. However, I can understand why this one wasn't quite as good. Unlike Wintersday and Halloween, which you know are coming and are going to celebrate, I doubt they sat around and planned months ahead of time for an event that coordinated with the Chinese New Year. I don't think any of us expected it until they announced it, either. I mean, an event that doesn't ignore Cantha? Who saw that coming? >_> So the way I look at it, it's an event that we didn't really expect to have. Outside of collecting the drops from obscure places, I didn't really have any big problems with it. Thanks, ANet.

Polgara Darshiva · Feb 18, 2007, 07:30 PM // 19:30

MOAN, MOAN, MOAN, MOAN.

OMG. Seriously. Are you people ever happy?

If you have nothing better to do than complain then go find another game to play.

This event was awesome. ArenaNet staff put what I can only imagine were many, many hours in to the development of the event and the thanks they get are the usual moans from the usual suspects.

Get off your high horses. If you don't have something nice to say then try keep it to yourselves for once

Silly Warrior · Feb 18, 2007, 07:39 PM // 19:39

I'll admit, I laughed out loud in my chair for about 5 minutes, after I got the pig everyone had been obsessing about. Then I went and sold it in LA for 20k.
Taking advantange of those who don't know better? Yeah, but thats how the world works.

Now with these new piggies, you won't be able to go into any district any pull out a mini. At first they were a show of wealth, but now anyone, literally can have one.

Now, I did all of the quests, I had some fun with the rock paper scissors, and I had fun with the fireworks, but I didn't obsess over the event, especially the chefs like others did.

I'll admit, the Chefs rewards are beyond lame, but that didn't matter to me, because at the event today I got a cool hat, a minipet, and Its ALL FREE.

Anet doesn't have to do these events, they do it to make you happy, think of the POSITIVE of this event. You don't need to be complaining and obsessing over it like an over-complusive nerd.

I had fun at this event, I spent a couple good hours on it, and a couple on roller beetle racing, it was a GREAT EVENT, perhaps the best for me yet!

To say that its the worst event ever, is to say that you have no respect for the company that made the game, and is providing this on their own time for free!

I really do pity the guy who made this thread, for being such a horrible customer, even though he didn't get everything he wanted, it was still a FREE EVENT, WE DON'T PAY A SUBSCRIPTION TO GET THIS!

So some things happened bad at the event. It was free event and plenty of cool new stuff happened this weekend. Think on the positive.

Get over it.

Rhedd · Feb 18, 2007, 07:42 PM // 19:42

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

Nope. They made the naive, weak-minded, and optimistic happy, whereas they made the thoughtful, intelligent, and pessimistic annoyed.

Evil always wins because good is dumb.

Cute. I should probably be in awe of your world-weary, too-cool-for-school attitude, but I'm just too busy being naively happy with my little piggie.

Personally, I'd think dumb was being annoyed and unhappy all of the time, for no good reason, you know?

Curse You · Feb 18, 2007, 07:46 PM // 19:46

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Originally Posted by Silly Warrior

Anet doesn't have to do these events, they do it to make you happy, think of the POSITIVE of this event. You don't need to be complaining and obsessing over it like an over-complusive nerd.

Correction, if ArenaNet wants to keep Guild Wars alive, they do have to do there events. If they didn't do events, the community would get bored, and most likely stop playing. Once enough people stop playing, and tell their friends about how boring the game is, sales will decline. Once this happens, it's just a short path to becoming broke.

So actually, they need to put on these events

Zinger314 · Feb 18, 2007, 07:50 PM // 19:50

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Originally Posted by Silly Warrior

I really do pity the guy who made this thread, for being such a horrible customer, even though he didn't get everything he wanted, it was still a FREE EVENT, WE DON'T PAY A SUBSCRIPTION TO GET THIS!

Wrong. You paid $50. (or more likely $150.)

Subscriptions are primarily for upkeep costs. Since Guild Wars is instanced (and only one central server), there's significantly low bandwidth, and thus no necessity for a monthly fee.

The event is not free.

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Originally Posted by Rhedd

Cute. I should probably be in awe of your world-weary, too-cool-for-school attitude, but I'm just too busy being naively happy with my little piggie.

Personally, I'd think dumb was being annoyed and unhappy all of the time, for no good reason, you know?

Who said I'm unhappy? I'm dissappointed with ArenaNet, but I expect it. You are unhappy (and per your definition, dumb), because you are offended by mere words. I'm perfectly content.

bamm bamm bamm · Feb 18, 2007, 07:51 PM // 19:51

This was totally the worst event ever. Next time I fully expect Anet to give me stock market tips so us thoughtful and intelligent types don't make such a hilarious blunder again. Anet, you hampered my ability to capitalize on the weak-minded (you know, those ones having fun, whatever that is). Us other people believe it's about capitalism and because we believe it that naturally makes it true.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have a meeting with the shareholders to attend to in Marhan's Grotto.

Rusty Deth · Feb 18, 2007, 07:56 PM // 19:56

I thought this event was pretty good.

Can't wait for next years!!

Mr_T_bot · Feb 18, 2007, 08:20 PM // 20:20

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Originally Posted by Pkest

I fail to see how free hats and mini pig pets for all make this a bad event.

Considering his main (and only) point is that this is a terrible event because he screwed himself over to get a minipig, I must agree.

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I really do pity the guy who made this thread, for being such a horrible customer, even though he didn't get everything he wanted, it was still a FREE EVENT, WE DON'T PAY A SUBSCRIPTION TO GET THIS!

I see there are still a number of idiots that don't understand Arena Net is a business and not paying a subscription fee is part of a business model. Just because we don't pay them a boatload of cash per month doesn't mean they can write us off and make a game with paltry content. No one goes "We arn't paying monthly for Half Life 2, we can't expect them to include rocket launchers" because that's retarded. Guild Wars is a game, Arena Net is a business and their business model is to get people to buy every single one of their expansions which, when released biyearly, would earn them a substantial sum of money. if they keep screwing around and pissing off their customers, their customers will stop buying their games. But, if Arena Net continues to lose the ability to put out games on their self-imposed schedule, I wouldn't count on them doing very well anyway.

SerenitySilverstar · Feb 18, 2007, 08:24 PM // 20:24

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc

Festivals, holidays, events - they are all about (1) the anticipation of something and (2) being surprised when that thing occurs.

Providing hints and information ahead of time is the easiest way to ruin that "surprise", which takes a ton of the fun out of the event.

I personally love the fact that they gave pigs to everyone in a district that had the foresight of collecting chef items. In many instances, to receive a pig, it required teamwork (something that is rarely seen outside of PvP in Guild Wars). Actually seeing chatter in districts trying to ensure that all chef items were present, seeing people give items to others for free to make sure the chefs are satisfied, seeing people buy items from entrepenuers for the good of everyone in the district - now that is showing a bit of community that Guild Wars has been lacking.

For those that have gotten used to holiday events being "work" and a "time for money making" - you simply took a risk, and the risk did NOT pan out. That is why you are disappointed...but it isn't Arena-Net's fault for your risk going against you. The lack of information is what you tried to capitalize on, and sometimes that doesn't work.

I'm with Jet Doc here.

In hindsight, the festival was about the journey, not the destination. More and more I have been realizing that Guild Wars is trying to teach their community ABOUT community, sharing, the esoteric values of having a good time and being good to your fellow man.

I find this admirable in something as simple as a computer game. They're not here to make a quick buck out of their consumers - they're fostering a long term relationship. It's almost the reverse of Western Society.

I salute you Anet, for trying to teach Teh Internets a thing or two about team work and sharing. I am heartened that at least ONE business out there is trying to teach those who leave their brains on the mouse pad something about morals and having a bit of class.

Zinger314 · Feb 18, 2007, 08:32 PM // 20:32

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Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar

I salute you Anet, for trying to teach Teh Internets a thing or two about team work and sharing. I am heartened that at least ONE business out there is trying to teach those who leave their brains on the mouse pad something about morals and having a bit of class.

Quoting for irony.

Why is it that the supposed "happy" people are the ones that are flaming the most?

SerenitySilverstar · Feb 18, 2007, 08:38 PM // 20:38

You're really busting for a fight aren't you Zinger. Sorry, not gonna get one out of me.

Rodhin Kinning · Feb 18, 2007, 09:09 PM // 21:09

This thread seems more of a flame war then anything now.

I see few suggestions on how ANet could make this event better next year. Maybe I'm wrong and missed some and if so I'm sorry but here is a start......

RollerBeetle Race

Next Year please give the 1st 2nd and 3rd place more points to the Gamer Title. Or maybe a multiplier to the consecutive winner.

Quests

I liked the quests and found them fun so little to add to them other then maybe one or two more?

Chefs

Maybe 25-50g per item given to the chef and if you give all the items then 500g bonus maybe?

Thats about all I can think of at the moment so if any of you would like to add to it in a more constructive manner I'm sure Anet will listen better if layed down in a non agresive or flamming way.

And to be honest from what I read of the OP I think thats what they might have been trying to do but they was still a little angry so it didnt come out in the right manner.

Silly Warrior · Feb 18, 2007, 09:18 PM // 21:18

[QUOTE=Zinger314]Wrong. You paid $50. (or more likely $150.)

Subscriptions are primarily for upkeep costs. Since Guild Wars is instanced (and only one central server), there's significantly low bandwidth, and thus no necessity for a monthly fee.

The event is not free.
QUOTE]

Correct, I paid 150$ over the past 2 years to play and enjoy this game. When all of us bought the game, it included the campaign and all of the new features, however it didn't contain all of the events to come.

Anet does these events to keep us entertained, and happy and hearty customers, and they need to, because I'm not getting any younger and Campaign 4 is yet to be annouced.

I didn't pay 50$ to get these events, these events are more like incentives to keep playing. These are here to keep us playing, and nothing else, the more customers, the more money Anet makes.

I know how GW's low bandwidth servers don't require alot of cash to run, regardless it doesn't mean they NEED to do these events. They CHOOSE to do them because they know if they don't they will lose their customers. While it may cost money to run the event, I didn't pay for it directly, I bought the campaigns and everything else that came with it.

I went to the store last year and bought Factions for 50 dollars, never knowing or expecting this event. And for any Factions only-customer, they would agree with me, not you.

This event is free.

Zinger314 · Feb 18, 2007, 09:25 PM // 21:25

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Originally Posted by Silly Warrior

Correct, I paid 150$ over the past 2 years to play and enjoy this game. When all of us bought the game, it included the campaign and all of the new features, however it didn't contain all of the events to come.

Anet does these events to keep us entertained, and happy and hearty customers, and they need to, because I'm not getting any younger and Campaign 4 is yet to be annouced.

I didn't pay 50$ to get these events, these events are more like incentives to keep playing. These are here to keep us playing, and nothing else, the more customers, the more money Anet makes.

I know how GW's low bandwidth servers don't require alot of cash to run, regardless it doesn't mean they NEED to do these events. They CHOOSE to do them because they know if they don't they will lose their customers. While it may cost money to run the event, I didn't pay for it directly, I bought the campaigns and everything else that came with it.

I went to the store last year and bought Factions for 50 dollars, never knowing or expecting this event. And for any Factions only-customer, they would agree with me, not you.

This event is free.

Free = No Cost

No Event = Customers Leave Game

Customers Leave Game = ArenaNet Makes Less Money In Future Expansions

ArenaNet Makes Less Money In Future Expansions = Cost

Therefore, if Free = ~Cost...

Free ~ No(No Event)

Free = ~(Event)

Not Free = Event

Transverse logic.

Mouse at Large · Feb 18, 2007, 09:39 PM // 21:39

To put my 2c

These are free bonus events. What you paid for was the original chapter content. Nowhere in the T&Cs of the sale did Anet promise free content such as the events. They do it as part of their business model to keep the game fresh and sustain interest.

That doesn't change the fact that nobody has a right to demand these events and nobody has to pay extra for them. Therefore they are free.

If you don't like them, don't participate. If you do, enjoy them